Curated by: Anna Grigoryan

Jenny Odell is an American writer, artist, and educator. Recently she's well known for publishing two books "How to do nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy" and "Saving time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock". Her works speak to the way our life succumbed to the whim of capitalistic efficiency and growth-focused systems, and how everything around us morphed to satisfy those two parameters. Both her works are searing in asking the tough questions the answers to which we may know on a subconscious level but sometimes we're too distracted to pursue the solutions. We curated 3 episodes where Jenny talks about her books and about her journey of detangling art, work, and enjoyment from the claws of capitalism.
3 episodes
137 min
Last updated: Jun 14, 2023
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Traveling Through Time with Dana Schwartz and Jenny Odell
Live Wire with Luke Burbank

Novelist Dana Schwartz unpacks her gothic fantasy duology, Anatomy and Immortality, then dives into her podcast Noble Blood, which explores the bizarre and risqué lives of royals; writer Jenny Odell dismantles the clock in her newest book Saving Time while explaining it's unofficial motto: "time is beans;" and indie rocker Black Belt Eagle Scout performs "Don't Give Up" from her new album The Land, The Water, The Sky, which dreams up the atmosphere of her ancestral land of Swinomish. Plus, host Luke Burbank and announcer Elena Passarello reveal how our listeners love to "waste" time.

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“Time is not money”: Challenging clocks, nostalgia, and more with Jenny Odell
East Bay Yesterday
In her new book “Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock,” Jenny Odell takes a tour of the Bay Area. She begins at the Port of Oakland and travels as far as the Pacific Ocean before turning around and heading back to Mountain View Cemetery in the East Bay hills. Along the way, she also brings readers on a different kind of journey. At each location, she uses these physical spaces to illustrate different ways of thinking about time itself. Are there really 24 hours in a day? By the end of this book, you won’t be so sure. I interviewed Jenny onstage at the Backroom in downtown Berkeley on April 4, 2023 in front of a live audience. The conversation covers everything from deconstructing linear conceptions of history to traffic jams on 880. Original music for this episode was produced by Mark Pantoja. Thank you to KPFA’s Brandi Howell for recording this event and Kevin Hunsanger for production. To see photos related to this episode, visit: If you want to hear my interview with Jenny about her first book, “How to do Nothing,” check out episode 46 of East Bay Yesterday. That conversation was recorded in 2019 at the dearly departed Wolfman Books in downtown Oakland. East Bay Yesterday can’t survive without your donations. Please make a pledge to keep this show alive:
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Reframing Productivity: Jenny Odell (NYT bestselling author of "How to Do Nothing")
Aiming for the Moon

Jenny Odell, New York Times bestselling author of How to Do Nothing, and I sit down to discuss the importance of unproductive activities for personal growth. Topics:

Managing stress and creative pursuits in the midst of busyness The prism of personality How and why to do nothingThe books that had an impact on Jenny OdellJenny Odell's advice for teenagersThe importance of journals 


Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants - to a Young Poet -

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