"I think [leadership] is about influence and the moving of people in a direction, and that's exactly what art does."Artist and pastor, Joey Tomassoni of Annapolis, MD joins Lisa in this final conversation in the Wise-Hearted Ones series to talk about artists as leaders in and outside of churches, learning to see and the power of beauty.You can see Joey Tomassoni's artwork here: <a href="http://joeytomassoni.com/">joeytomassoni.com</a>And learn more about the Estuary here: <a href="http://estuary.org/">estuary.org</a>Connect with Joey:<ul> <li>@estuarycollective</li> <li>@joeytomassoni</li></ul>Join the conversation at <a href="http://www.soulmakers.org/bemakedo">www.soulmakers.org/bemakedo</a>Share your thoughts: TikTok: @bemakedopodcast Instagram: @bemakedopodcast Facebook: @bemakedopodcast Subscribe and follow Be.Make.Do. wherever you get your podcasts.Get your FREE Wise-Hearted Ones Study Guide for practical tools and thought provoking guidance on your artist's quest: <a href="https://www.soulmakers.org/podcast-study-discussion-guide">https://www.soulmakers.org/podcast-study-discussion-guide</a>