On today's episode, I talk to comics creator Michael DeForge. Originally from Ottawa, Michael had been making mini- and webcomics for years before he created his first "real" comic Lose, which was published by Koyama Press in 2009. Since then, he's published over a dozen books and collections through publishers like Koyama and Drawn & Quarterly, and also worked as a designer on Adventure Time for six seasons. His latest book Holy Lacrimony was published through Drawn & Quarterly just a few months ago, and it is fantastic! This is <a href="http://beginningspod.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the website</a> for Beginnings, <a href= "http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/wrestling-team-presents-beginnings/id352616073" target="_blank" rel="noopener">subscribe on Apple Podcasts</a>, follow me on <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyBeckerman" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter</a>. Check out my free philosophy Substack where I write essays every couple months <a href= "https://theslowdystopia.substack.com/">here</a> and my old casiopop band's lost album <a href= "https://andybeckerman.bandcamp.com/">here</a>! And the comedy podcast I do with my wife Naomi Couples Therapy can be found <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/couples-therapy/id1410296631">here</a>! Theme song by the fantastic <a href= "https://www.savoiradore.com/">Savoir Adore</a>! Second theme by the brilliant <a href="https://thechildactors.bandcamp.com/">Mike Pace</a>! Closing theme by the delightful <a href= "https://www.thegregorybrothers.com/">Gregory Brothers</a>! Podcast art by the inimitable <a href="https://beanogee.tumblr.com/">Beano Gee</a>!