On this podcast we explore the role of productivity in sustainability, and why it's important to try and make existing farmland as productive possible in order to protect global biodiversity and lower emissions on per unit basis. We explore why measurement systems that measure emissions a total figure or on a per hectare or per acre basis distort the numbers and why concepts such as rewilding where agricultural land is removed from production and restored to a natural state may actually lead to increased emissions and less biodiversity.

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