David Scott from UK Column recently interviewed Lilly Tang Williams, who grew up in Maoist China, survived Mao's Cultural Revolution and used her ingenuity to escape to the United States. 

This episode was originally released June 29, 2023. 

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Chapter Markers: 00:00:00 - UK Column stinger and intro 00:00:46 - Lily Tang Williams 00:02:25 - Life under Mao 00:04:21 - Food ration coupons 00:06:34 - School posters 00:10:01 - Young Pioneers 00:11:43 - Lessons learned 00:12:11 - Moving up 00:15:19 - Surviving the Cultural Revolution 00:18:22 - Chinese law school 00:19:23 - The pocket Constitution 00:21:09 - Pictures from America 00:21:49 - Planning her escape 00:25:04 - Giving up home 00:28:15 - Moving to America 00:31:03 - Graduate school 00:31:48 - Research assistant 00:33:17 - Life is good, but.... 00:37:58 - Hong Kong example 00:38:58 - Hong Kong 2013 00:40:01 - Foreign ideology 00:40:46 - Starting a business 00:44:42 - Guns Against Tyranny article 00:47:25 - Totalitarians 00:59:41 - Cultural Marxism = Maoism 01:00:59 - Lily's web site Thanks for sending some value back!

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IMAGE CREDITS Food Ration Coupon - 河北省革命委員會—糧食局Revolution Committee of Hebei — Bureau of Food, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Marx Lenin Mao poster - https://chineseposters.net/posters/pc-1968-l-005, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Young Pioneers - User:Tsiaojian_lee, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Stable diffusion - Tullius Detritus, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons  Mao Zedong - 侯波, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  1966 Mao Zedong - 吕相友, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Shangai Law School - Acstar, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Pocket Constitution - I, Neutrality, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Country road in rural America - Carol M. Highsmith, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  UT Austin School of Law logo - University of Texas at Austin, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Chengdu map - Dagvidur, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons  $10 bank note - National Numismatic Collection,National Museum of American History, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Research assistant - Max MBAKOP, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Wake Up - Jeremy Segrott from Cardiff, Wales, UK, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Hong Kong 1941 - C. C. J. Bond / Historical Section, General Staff, Canadian Army, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons  Kowloon Waterfront - Diego Delso, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Guns Against Tyranny article   Totalitarians - Bop34, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons  Maoism flag - RootOfAllLight, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons