In this inspiring and wide-ranging conversation, I sit down with British creative director Lisa Wrake to explore the beautiful (and sometimes bizarre) intersections between creativity, spirituality, and the corporate advertising world.
Together, we unpack what it means to stay creatively alive in high-pressure environments, how spiritual insight weaves into professional life, and why UFOs, quantum physics, and Buddhism aren’t as far from the boardroom as you might think.
From Close Encounters of the Third Kind to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Lisa shares how a lifelong sense of wonder has shaped her path—and how she stays connected to something bigger while navigating work, grief, and the creative process.
We also reflect on the books that changed us, the subtle magic of intuition, and the role of consciousness in navigating both deadlines and the divine.
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Guest Bio: Lisa Wrake – Creative Director & Multi-Sensory Storyteller
Lisa Wrake has spent over 20 years crafting immersive brand experiences that blend animation, storytelling, and sound. From tour visuals for the Rolling Stones to red carpet events for TikTok, her work is driven by deep curiosity about the human experience. Currently at Jack Morton, a global experiential agency, she brings creativity and meaning to some of the world’s biggest brands.
In this episode, Lisa and I explore the intersection of creativity, technology, and consciousness. We dive into the unseen forces that shape inspiration, the power of multi-sensory storytelling, and the deeper mysteries behind creativity.
📚 Lisa’s Recommended Reads:🔹 Passport to Magonia – Jacques Vallée🔹 Fingerprints of the Gods – Graham Hancock🔹 The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying – Sogyal Rinpoche🔹 Biocentrism – Robert Lanza🔹 The Untethered Soul – Michael A. Singer🔹 How to Change Your Mind – Michael Pollan🎧 Plus: Druidcast – A fantastic podcast on Druidry & spirituality
Bel mentions in this episode:
Flow, the Secret to Happiness by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
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