Karvin Cheung's influence on the hobby is probably more than you realize.  He's a risk taker who decisions have had positive effects. He returns for part 2 of our conversation on this episode.   Talking points on this episode may include: *The Evolution of the Hobby *Wearing different hobby hats *Working for Upper Deck, Working for Panini *The Legend of the Exquisite brand *Grail item *Would you like to see multiple licensing again? *Taking Risks *NSCC Discussion  Follow us on Social Media:  Website:https://www.sportscardnationpo....com https://linktr.ee/Sportscardna... Merch shop:https://sports-card-nation.pri...   To eliminate pre & post-roll adshttps://www.spreaker.com/podca...