Dai and David kick off season five with an extra special guest!  Steve Grumbine is a Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) Evangelist and serves as the CEO &amp; President of <a href='https://realprogressives.org/'>Real Progressives</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@RealProgressInAction'>Real Progress in Action</a>.  Steve also hosts <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/macro-n-cheese/id1453085489'>Macro N Cheese</a>, a podcast that critically examines the working class struggle through the lens of MMT.  Dai, David, and Steve discuss MMT, the role of taxation, the Democratic Party, inflation and deflation, retirement funding, universal basic services, war bonds, and much much more. <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCdOOzxEL0'>The 401k Experiment: A Looming Retirement Crisis</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pc0nNHDziE'>Coup Save MMT with Sean St. Heart &amp; Steve Grumbine </a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZIHykCEgN4'>Isabella Weber on a New Way to Think About Inflation</a> <a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CallMeLimboPod">Support the show</a>Patreon &amp; Venmo: @CallMeLimboPod Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Threads: @CallMeLimboPod Theme Music by Aidan Ivory Edwards. Logo by Mark Mittelstaedt.