In this deeply moving episode, Kelly sits down with bestselling author, global communicator, and cultural thought leader Erwin McManus.

 Known for his groundbreaking books The Genius of Jesus and The Seven Frequencies of Communication, Erwin shares the story behind his personal journey through trauma, identity and faith, and how it led him to uncover the hidden genius in every human being.

The conversation dives into how Jesus’ genius remains the most transformative force in history, why communication is the bridge to human connection, and how you can unlock deeper influence by elevating your frequency through empathy and authenticity.

What You’ll Learn:

How Erwin’s search for meaning led him from disbelief to deep faith

Why Jesus is the most overlooked genius in modern history

The transferable nature of Jesus’ genius, and how it shapes human potential

The seven communication “frequencies” we all operate from (and how to identify yours)

Why deep listening and soul-level authenticity are the keys to modern influence

How to elevate your leadership in an AI-driven world through human connection

Timestamps:

4:00: A reluctant journey into faith and a deeper purpose

8:00: The inspiration behind The Genius of Jesus

14:55: The Seven Frequencies: how we communicate and connect

17:00: The role of empathy and authenticity in amplifying influence

20:30: Using the assessment to better lead teams, families, and communities

24:00: Erwin’s take on AI and why your soul makes you irreplaceable

Resources:

Take the Seven Frequencies Assessment: www.erwinmcmanus.com

Grab The Genius of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Genius-Jesus-Erwin-Raphael-McManus/dp/0593137388 

Grab The Seven Frequencies of Communication: https://www.thesevenfrequencies.com/ 

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