I’ve been thinking lately about how to move beyond the binary debate over cancel culture. And a good place to start is with the deeper question we’re all trying to ask: What is the kind of politics — the kind of society — we’re trying to achieve in our fights over acceptable speech?To talk through this question, I wanted to bring on two guests, both of whom have been canceled — one by the left and one by the right — and have since dedicated parts of their work to grappling with both the good and the bad of the phenomenon. When is cancellation merited or useful? When is it insufficient or harmful? And what other tools are available in those cases?Natalie Wynn runs the YouTube channel ContraPoints. Her videos, on topics ranging from cancel culture to J.K. Rowling, are not only intellectually stimulating and aesthetically rich but also deeply humanizing. What sets Wynn apart is a unique capacity to live inside the heads of those she disagrees with vehemently and bring them into a dialogue with her.Will Wilkinson was the vice president for research at the Niskanen Center. He was fired after a right-wing online mob attacked a clearly satirical tweet he’d sent. Since being canceled, Wilkinson has, surprisingly, become one of the most outspoken critics of the anti-cancel-culture discourse. He now writes the great newsletter Model Citizen, hosts a podcast of the same name and contributes to Times Opinion.The result is a very different kind of cancel culture conversation. We discuss the universal yearning for safe spaces, the psychology of the social media pile-on, the political limits of social shame, the pathways to persuasion and humanization, theories of social change, the virtues of an effective political communicator, how social media shapes the way we act and think online and much, much more.Mentioned in this episode: "A Different Way of Thinking About Cancel Culture" by Ezra Klein“Canceling” by ContraPoints “J.K. Rowling” by ContraPoints“Undefined Cancel Game” by Will Wilkinson “The Boring Truth vs ‘Cancel Culture’ Panic” by Will Wilkinson Recommendations: "Conflict is Not Abuse" by Sarah Schulman"The Tao is Silent" by Raymond SmullyanIf you enjoyed this show, you should check out The Argument's recent episode: "Is It Time to Cancel Cancel Culture?" You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein.Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.“The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.

Youtuber, political commentator, and "ex-philosopher" Natalie Wynn (aka ContraPoints) joins Jameela this week to discuss the experience of going through big life discoveries/changes publicly, speaking out when having lots of visibility online, the similarities between fatphobia and transphobia, "cringe-culture" and why it is so powerful, and more.  Check out ContraPoints on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/user/contrapoints You can follow Natalie on Instagram and Twitter@contrapoints You can find transcripts for this episode on the Earwolf website. I Weigh has amazing merch - check it out at podswag.com Jameela is on Instagram @jameelajamilofficial and Twitter @Jameelajamil And make sure to check out I Weigh's Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube for more! 

We loved her so much, Natalie Wynn is back! The youtuber and political commentator joins Jameela this week to go deep on incel culture. They cover the origins of the culture, why it is so toxic, the societal issues that encourage incel ideology, the body issues which plague its community, other internet communities with similar toxicity, the issues with how we teach sexuality as a society, the role parents play in raising children that are impervious to the twisted teachings of incel culture, and more.  Check out ContraPoints on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/user/contrapoints You can follow Natalie on Instagram and Twitter@contrapoints You can find transcripts for this episode on the Earwolf website. I Weigh has amazing merch - check it out at podswag.com Jameela is on Instagram @jameelajamilofficial and Twitter @Jameelajamil And make sure to check out I Weigh's Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube for more! 

Also available in video form at https://youtu.be/NUPWY_evu30 In a recent video by Contrapoints, she goes over her account of envy and its connection with online politics. In doing so she utilizes Nietzsche (alongside a critique of Nietzsche). How accurate is this account to Nietzsche's work and where does it go wrong?   Thank you to We're in Hell, BadEmpanada, and Chelsea Manning for the voice lines!  Edited by Lexi Fontaine: https://twitter.com/softgothoutlaw  Music by Alex Ballantyne: https://transistorriot.bandcamp.com  This was an early release to my patrons at https://pateron.com/livagar  Watch me stream on twitch at https://twitch.tv/livagar  All of my links athttps:// livagar.com

Are you in a parasocial relationship with this week's guest? Or with us? You're probably not alone! YouTuber (or video essayist, pick your poison) and ex-philosopher Natalie Wynn, known by most as ContraPoints, joins us to d*ke out about our strange digital relationships. Sometimes it's angry people hiding behind anime avatars. Other times, it's people you've never met inviting you to their wedding. And if you're lucky, it's really great folks in your audience who you enjoy getting to know and maybe become friends with! Also, we touch on the power of crystals, and Natalie has the best answer to our new final question. -Get extra content EACH WEEK, Ad Free episodes, support the pod, and get to know other listeners by joining our Patreon community. If you can't support the pod on a monthly basis, please consider tipping us through Paypal or purchasing 1-on-1s and cameos through Jemi. We truly appreciate it! -We've got MERCH. -For related content, follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram -Help more folks find us and Leave Us a 5-star Review if you like what you hear! -Theme song by There Is No Mountain Sponsors: Carpe: mycarpe.com use code DYKINGOUT for 25% off your first purchase Helix: Helixsleep.com/dykingout for up to $200 off your purchase BetterHelp: As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at betterhelp.com/do  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this instalment of the podcast, we're joined by two absolute icons. First up, for ask an expert, guest host Jender Anomie is chatting to Youtuber Natalie Wynn, who's channel ContraPoints straddles philosophical and socio-political discourse with killer, high femme glamour and a sharp eye for an amazing lqqk.  Natalie and Jender discuss building a platform on Youtube, trying to combat far-right thought and entice those who don't share her views to engage with ContraPoints content, the place of new-age media and memes in our political landscape, and much more. Natalie also deep dives on the aesthetic choices she makes in terms of her videos; and why being visually appealing, entertaining, informative and academic are not mutually exclusive entities. For our obsessions section, we talk to comic artist and illustrator Bridget Meyne; who did the redesign for season two of the podcast. Bridget will be telling us all about her deep love for real life trashy magazines. Think Take a Break, Pick Me Up, etc. Speaking to Polyester editor in chief Ione Gamble about why we shouldn't belittle those that appear in these weekly titles, as well as how she finds solace in divulging in other peoples messy lives; we hope our conversation with Bridget leaves you thinking about the way in which we all consume our media.  The Polyester Podcast is brought to you by Polyester's founding editor in chief Ione Gamble (@ionegamble), and co-hosted and produced by Olivia Graham. Thank you to our assistant Jemima Skala. This weeks artwork has been created by episode guest Bridget Meyne. The Polyester podcast is supported by Depop, with new episodes released every other week.Polyester is a self published culture zine exploring intersectional URL feminism in the IRL world. Have faith in your own bad taste!Want to support the podcast? If you're a brand or organisation that could help us continue the show, Please fill in this form. Can't wait to hear from you!We'd love to know what you think about our podcast. Fill out this survey here to let us know <3To keep up with Polyester zine, head to: polyesterzine.com, or @polyesterzine on all socials.  #ThePolyesterPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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None dare call him breadtuber! Sean is joined by Muke (@muke10101) of the Marxist youtube channel Xexizy to discuss his project and popularization of good communist takes on politics, the economy and whether profit is, in fact, theft. Along the way they discuss the problems with soc-dem streamers, the parlous state of UK politics ,why the critique of political economy is important and begin the critique of Leninism found the bonus. For this bonus and much more, become a patron today at patreon.com/theantifada Check out his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDULjo1v2Hivuu4h4LZSTUQ Outro: Ｋａｌｉ Ｕｃｈｉｓ － ｔｅｌｅｐａｔíａ （ｖａｐｏｒｗａｖｅチ ル) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7PYIx8_yn4