The CIRS Group Podcast

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie welcome the OG CIRS coach and patient advocate, Jenny Johnson. As a board-certified health coach and founder of Simplified Wellness Designs, LLC, Jenny has helped countless CIRS clients navigate their health journey. We’ll hear about Jenny's personal battle and recovery from CIRS, her insights into effective treatment strategies, and practical advice for maintaining health post-recovery. Jenny will also share about how you can work with her: one-on-one coaching, consulting services, and her 'Equipped to Overcome CIRS' online course. Whether you're newly diagnosed or well into your CIRS journey, this episode is packed with valuable information and hope from one of the leading experts in the field. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:06 Meet Jenny Johnson: The OG CIRS Health Coach 02:15 Jenny's Personal Journey with CIRS 04:33 Family's Recovery Stories 09:18 Life Post-Protocol: Managing and Thriving 16:35 Advice for Those Overwhelmed by CIRS 18:39 The Role of Coaching in CIRS Recovery 19:44 Jenny's Services and Offerings 27:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Jenny Johnson's links: Website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/ CIRS Community, Courses and Group Coaching: https://cirshealingcollective.mn.co/share/hCQ3hTjDCb1f1QZQ?utm_source=manual The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, please visit https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara dive into the complexities of renting and moving while living with CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They discuss the importance of consulting with IEPs (Indoor Environmental Professionals), choosing the right location, conducting thorough inspections, and the vital steps of decontaminating belongings with small particle cleaning before moving in. The episode also provides strategies for getting out of a bad lease if the living conditions are not up to CIRS patient standards. We hope this provides valuable insight and practical tips to ensure a safe and healthy living environment as you heal from CIRS!  00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:23 Choosing the Right Location 03:24 Apartment Hunting Tips 06:24 Testing the Unit 10:41 Moving In and Cleaning 15:14 Dealing with Contaminated Items 16:46 Getting Out of a Bad Lease 20:15 Final Thoughts and Resources Our episode with Kendra Seymour re: how to conduct your own home inspection: https://youtu.be/zmt9e42LLac?si=LYw8ndskD5GhX96t The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com Sign up for updates and our next webinar! https://webinar.thecirsgroup.com/ In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the shortcomings of conventional Western medicine, particularly for those suffering from chronic illnesses and autoimmune diseases.  We share personal stories about the inadequacies we've faced, the importance of finding doctors who can address root causes, and how to advocate for your health. We cover why a team approach, involving proficiency partners and specialist doctors, is crucial for effective treatment and healing. The conversation is grounded in their experiences with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), highlighting the necessity of holistic, personalized care. 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:58 Personal Experiences with Conventional Medicine 02:54 Challenges with Conventional Medical Appointments 06:10 The Importance of Holistic and Functional Medicine 13:47 Navigating the Healthcare System and Self-Advocacy 17:26 Building Your Healthcare Team 24:37 Final Thoughts and Resources HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: List of certified CIRS practitioners: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners List of CIRS Proficiency Partners: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

CIRS Q&A: Tackling Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, Co-Infections, and Recovery For more information and support, visit us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com Welcome to our first 2025 CIRS Q&A session! In this episode, Barbara and Jacie provide answers to your pressing questions about Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). We dive into the Shoemaker Protocol, tips for identifying safe new environments for moving, and specific strategies to handle co-infections like SIBO, Lyme, and Bartonella. We also discuss managing symptoms like fatigue, hormone issues from menopause, and dealing with mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS or histamine response). Whether you're new to CIRS or further along in your healing journey, this session provides valuable insights to help you take control of your health. Don't miss out on practical advice for improving your well-being and staying proactive in your treatment plan. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:26 Overview of CIRS and Shoemaker Protocol 03:05 Q&A Session Begins 03:39 Hypometabolism and Weight Loss 07:17 Cross Contamination and Cleaning 11:06 Muscle Fatigue and Co-Infections 14:07 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS) 20:21 Moving and Small Particle Cleaning 26:13 Exploring NID IV Therapy 27:28 Cost-Benefit Analysis of Short-Term Symptom Management 28:30 Increasing MSH: Strategies and Recommendations 30:20 Affordable Service Practitioners 33:13 Managing Treatment Costs and Financial Strategies 34:15 Combating Fatigue from CS and Menopause 37:01 Ensuring a Safe Living Environment 42:18 Treating Methane SIBO During Actos and Endo Cleaning 46:05 Becoming a CIRS Practitioner 49:11 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks Helpful Links: SinusKey Test: https://patients.microgendx.com/products/sinuskey Envirobiomics #7: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/ Prescriptions for a Healthy House https://a.co/d/f8VjmZy Join CIRSLab: https://www.cirslab.com/ Check out the CIRS Summit: https://the-ultimate-cirs-summit.heysummit.com/

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Today, we are exploring what the triggers can be for people who develop CIRS: biotoxins! We cover mold, endotoxins, actinos, spider bites, ticks, cyanobacteria, and even vaccines. Check out the links below for more resources. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:40 Barbara’s terrible explanation of CIRS and our favorite biotoxins 4:36 Genetic predisposition and a story about pfiesteria 6:40 Other common biotoxins 8:10 How exposure to a biotoxin can cause a whole shift in your health 9:20 Triggers vs ongoing exposure 10:14 New info on endotoxins coming up on your GENIE test 11:34 Triggers outside of biotoxins: Trauma 12:42 Jacie’s story of physical trauma 13:36 Trauma in childhood increases risk of developing chronic illness 14:48 Treat the biotoxin and/or trauma in addition to CIRS 16:22 CIRS can be put into remission with the Shoemaker Protocol HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Our previous episode on Genetics vs the GENIE test: The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.  

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Unfortunately, very few doctors are educated and certified to help you heal from it. Today, we want to help you find the doctor and health coach that is right for you. Check out the links below for more resources to aid you in your search. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com   TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:50 Why use a Shoemaker certified practitioner 3:00 How to find a Shoemaker certified practitioner 5:24 How to use your general practitioner in conjunction with a Proficiency Partner 6:34 Shoemaker Certified Practitioner vs Proficiency Partner 8:35 Cautionary tale re: using a non-Shoemaker certified doctor 10:37 The benefits of adding a Proficiency Partner to your team 11:40 Educating your CIRS-ignorant providers   HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Surviving Mold website: https://www.survivingmold.com Book with Christian: https://consult-christian.as.me/schedule/a89e8b00 Nutrition with Judy: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/ CIRS studies to share with your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf Our podcast on What is CIRS: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=lceCk-iCRfG1NnVf   The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/   Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/   Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/   Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching   Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is what we were diagnosed with three years ago. A little over two years ago, we started this podcast - and this week we celebrate 100 episodes! Today we discuss what CIRS has taught us: tips and cautionary tales for healing, how to navigate things when it gets complicated, and reminders of what’s most important. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 Don’t cut corners like skipping remediation 3:48 Doing the right tests at the right time 5:45 Healing is a marathon, not a sprint 9:04 Expect setbacks 10:30 Everyone is different 11:50 Peeling back the layers of the onion: co-infections 13:05 It’s OK to take breaks, just keep going when you can 15:10 Share your story 16:30 CIRS hits your weakest points 18:50 Record your symptoms so you can reflect on improvements 20:18 Jacie is working out now! Healing is possible 21:08 CIRS will test your relationships 23:23 Join a support community The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara   Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com Today we have a special guest! Dr. Dayan Goodenowe is a researcher that has unlocked the power of plasmalogens and thankfully, this is something that can be a real game changer for people struggling with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. We cover what they are, where they come from, how to try them for yourself, and more. Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:28 What are plasmalogens? 6:20 What do plasmalogens do? 10:20 How Dr. Goodenowe started working with plasmalogens 13:10 Glia and Nuero: what are the differences? 16:47 Titrate up slowly and carefully 18:40 Jacie’s experience with plasmalogens, and how plasmalogens help even in exposure 23:30 Getting to baseline to build resilience 26:45 Side effects to look out for when starting out 21:10 Blood test to determine your needs/deficiencies 38:24 How to work with Dr. Goodenowe or purchase his products HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Dr. Goodenowe’s website: https://drgoodenowe.com/ His Prodrome website to purchase plasmalogens: https://prodrome.com/ The CIRS Summit: https://thecirssummit.com/ The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be exacerbated by histamine response, or MCAS, aka Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. There are ways to keep this in check as you heal, and there is actually a good reason to address it that can mean raising your MSH!  Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:46 Histamines and what it does in your body 2:42 MCAS or mast cell activation syndrome 5:10 How MCAS/histamine treatment can help MSH 6:21 How to know if you have a histamine reaction 7:37 Ways to treat histamine reactions 11:00 Low histamine foods 13:18 Striking a balance in managing histamines HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Cromolyn Sodium nasal spray: https://a.co/d/aIZMfA4 Billy Doe Meats: https://billydoemeats.com/ The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.  

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and sometimes we might stall in our healing journey. When that happens, it’s a good idea to think about what stones might be left unturned. For some, that could be an oral infection or a bad root canal. Today, we’ll talk about some prevention tips and how to mitigate potential problems with your oral health that could be keeping you sick. Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:47 So, why are we talking about oral health? 1:26 When to dive down this rabbit hole 3:19 Prevention tips 10:30 Cone Beam Scan 11:54 Holistic or Biologic Dentists 12:45 Swabbing for MARCoNs 14:13 Beeskeepers for actinos colonization 15:10 Disclaimer about trying new products 16:45 Word of caution   HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Ask The Dentist: https://www.instagram.com/askthedentist Toothpastes: Boka: https://a.co/d/2siCwHN Fygg: https://a.co/d/d91aCxW Mouthwash: https://a.co/d/cSvvg4O Tongue scrapers: https://a.co/d/12ySY4L MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits Beekeepers: https://a.co/d/ePutuIE   The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/   Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0   Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara   Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.