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Secured by Galah Cyber

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41 episodes   Last Updated: Nov 20, 24
Secured is the podcast for software security enthusiasts. Host Cole Cornford sits down with Australia's top software security experts to uncover their unconventional career paths and the challenges they faced along the way. Listen in as they share their insights on the diverse approaches to AppSec, company by company, and how each organisation's security needs are distinct and require personalised solutions. Gain insider access to the masterminds behind some of Australia's most successful Software security teams on Secured by Galah Cyber. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/

Episodes

Episode SummaryIn this episode, Cole Cornford is joined by cybersecurity experts and IRAP assessors, Kat McCrabb and Toby Amodio, to unpack the latest updates to the Protective Security Policy Framework (PSPF) for 2024. They explore the significant changes introduced in the PSPF, such as the heightened emphasis on IRAP assessments, the potential strain on resources due to increased demand for assessors, and the impact on government agencies' compliance efforts. The discussion delves into the restructuring of the PSPF domains, including the separation of information and technology, and the challenges this presents for reporting and governance. They also address issues with self-attestation in agencies, insights from ANAO reports, and the critical importance of managing legacy IT systems. Kat and Toby offer valuable perspectives and practical advice for organisations navigating these new requirements, highlighting the need for proactive planning and adaptation in the evolving cybersecurity landscape.Timestamps01:27 - What is the PSPF? Toby explains the framework03:07 - Kat discusses the biggest changes in the PSPF 2024 updates04:20 - Challenges with IRAP assessments: time, cost, and limited assessors06:18 - When are IRAP assessments required? Clarifications08:13 - Changes in PSPF domains: splitting information and technology10:08 - Implications of the changes for reporting and governance12:15 - Comparison with NIST framework and governance considerations13:38 - Issues with self-attestation and insights from ANAO reports15:09 - Strategies for improving reporting and assessments in agencies17:36 - Managing legacy IT systems under the new PSPF requirements18:52 - Key takeaways and final thoughts from Kat and TobyMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
Episode SummaryIn this episode, Cole Cornford speaks with Anand, an API security expert at Traceable AI with over 18 years of experience in crafting innovative IT solutions. Anand's expertise spans API design, microservices architecture, cloud technologies like Kubernetes and AWS, and security architecture including IAM and OAuth. Together, they delve into the critical importance of API security in today's digital landscape, discussing why traditional web security measures are insufficient, lessons learned from incidents like the Optus breach, the challenges of managing API inventories, and how AI and machine learning can enhance security practices. Anand also shares his experience writing a book during the pandemic and the value of continuous learning. This episode is packed with insights on modern application development, cybersecurity, and plenty more.Timestamps4:20 - Understanding API security challenges9:30 - The role of AI in API security16:55 - The importance of API inventory management24:00 - The business impact of API security28:00 - Cole & Anand discuss books & writing34:00 - Current state of API security in AustraliaMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
Episode SummaryIn this episode, Cole Cornford speaks to two guests on the topic of robotics: Damith Herath, a Professor at the University of Canberra, and Adam Haskard, co-founder and Director of Bluerydge, a Canberra-based cybersecurity and technology firm. Together, Damith and Adam are conducting research into Secure Robotics, an emerging field of study that addresses the intersection of robotic safety, trust, and cybersecurity. In their conversation with Cole, they discuss the growth opportunities for robotics, how someone interested in the field could pursue a career in robotics, potential risks of the common household vacuum robots, and plenty more.Timestamps2:00 - Robotics: definitions & applications8:45 - The intersection of robotics & cybersecurity10:00 - Trust & safety in robotics & cyber15:00 - Emerging risks in robotics18:40 - The role of cybersecurity in robotics20:30 - Regulation and innovation in robotics40:00 - Growth opportunities for robotics29:00 - Future of robotics & AI32:00 - Career pathways into robotics39:00 - Rapid fire questionsMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
Episode SummaryIlkka Turunen is the CTO at Sonatype, a company that helps millions of software developers use open-source software while minimising security risk. In this conversation, Ilkka chats with Cole Cornford about the benefits and risk of using open-source software, how Maven helped standardise software development processes, the different approaches to AppSec regulation in Australia and Europe, and plenty more.Timestamps1:33 - Ilkka's career background4:00 - Varying quality of open-source software6:10 - How Maven helped standardise software development processes13:00 - The balance between speed of delivery & quality17:00 - Importance of environment parity in software dev21:40 - Risk of using 3rd party code in software25:10 - Regulation of AppSec in Australia vs Europe32:10 - How new European software security regulations will be enforced35:00 - Recommendations for compliance with European regulations39:00 - Rapid fire questionsMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackCall for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
SummaryDaisy Wong is the Head of Security Awareness at Medibank, as well as a disability advocate. Originally from a marketing background, Daisy gained experience in the cybersecurity industry working as part of penetration teams, before making her way into the security culture and awareness space. In her conversation with Cole Cornford, Daisy discusses using the tools of marketing to educate people on cybersecurity, what are the hallmarks of a good security culture and awareness program, and the importance of diversity in cybersecurity.Timestamps4:00 - Daisy's transition from marketing to cybersecurity8:10 - The importance of security culture and awareness11:00 - Building effective security awareness programs14:15 - The role of diversity in cybersecurity17:00 - Strategies for inclusive hiring practices19:40 - The power of communication in security awareness23:20 - Creative approaches to security awareness campaigns31:45 - Daisy's personal perspective on the importance of diversity43:40 - Rapid fire questionsMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
SummaryAntonio Deliseo has been in the information security industry for decades. Currently working at Telstra, Antonio has enjoyed a long and winding career path and has plenty of stories and insights to share as a result. In this conversation with Cole Cornford, Antonio discusses how he got started in his career studying physics, overseeing cybersecurity at a goldmine, how to advocate for cybersecurity within a large organisation, and plenty more.Timestamps1:40 - Antonio's career background3:30 - Advantages of coming from a non technical background8:30 - Stories from Antonio's early career working at a goldmine14:00 - How Antonio moved into the GRC space17:30 - The role a board of directors plays in cybersecurity20:00 - Cybersecurity is less like IT, more like gambling or insurance25:30 - Calculating the cost of a breach in dollar terms30:30 - How to advocate for cybersecurity as a CISO40:00 - Cybersecurity often seen as unaffordable by small businesses42:30 - Pros & cons of networked technologyMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
SummaryBen Gittins is the Principal Security Engineer at Bugcrowd, one of the world's best bug bounty platforms. Ben has previously worked as a Senior DevSecOps Engineer at Canva, as well as DevSecOps Lead at SecureStack. In this conversation with Cole Cornford, Ben shares his belief that cybersecurity needs more generalists, how coding and AppSec have changed over time, whether cybersecurity qualifications are overrated, and plenty more.Timestamps3:50 - Why is Aus cybersecurity lagging behind? 9:50 - Over-reliance on purchasing cybersecurity products 14:40 - We ask too much of our AppSec professionals 19:00 - How App development & cybersecurity have changed over time 24:00 - "Greenfield projects" are often not realistic 28:20 - How to bring new people into the AppSec industry 32:00 - Importance of communication skills 38:20 - Cybersecurity qualifications are overrated43:00 - Rapid fire questions  Mentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
SummaryShan Kulkarni is the co-founder and CEO of Nullify, a product designed to augment AppSec teams with AI agents capable of carrying out multiple levels of product security work autonomously. Prior to Nullify, Shan worked in roles such as Cloud Operations Lead at UNSW Redback Racing, and Cloud Security Engineer at CMD Solutions Australia. In this conversation with Cole Cornford, Shan discusses the challenges of starting a business, and in particular the challenges of hiring, the state of AppSec in Australia, what the future might hold for the industry, and plenty more.Timestamps1:30 - Shan's career background5:30 - Why AppSec is so often inefficient and expensive9:00 - Bigh tech has a monopoly on AppSec talent12:30 - Shan's journey from consultant to founding a company15:40 - Biggest mistakes when starting a business19:20 - Selling products/services to devs is extremely difficult25:00 - Where Shan sees AppSec going28:00 - Consolidation of security products32:00 - What security leaders are struggling with: visibility34:00 - Rapid fire questionsMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
SummaryDan Draper is CEO and Founder of CipherStash, a data-storage platform that helps customers keep data secure. As well as being fascinated by Cryptography and data security, for most of Dan's career he's either been a founder or worked in the leadership team of startups, so has plenty of experience in both business and getting into the nitty gritty details of technical problems. In this episode Dan chats with Cole Cornford about Cryptography, the challenges and rewards of founding a company, best practices for securing funding for a startup, and plenty more.Timestamps - 2:00 - Dan's career background - 8:00 - Dan's lessons from working in government - 9:30 - When Dan became obsessed with cryptography - 12:40 - Reflecting on Dan's 1st failed business - 17:10 - The founding of CipherStash - 23:40 - Managing data a major challenge in large orgs - 28:00 - Different types of data breaches - 32:00 - Potential and limitations of AI in cybersecurity - 37:00 - Experience raising money for a startup - 44:10 - Dan's 3 tiers of investors - 46:00 - Rapid fire questionsMentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/
BlurbDan Draper is CEO and Founder of CipherStash, a data-storage platform that helps customers keep data secure. As well as being fascinated by cryptology and data security, for most of Dan's career he's either been a founder or worked in the leadership team of startups, so has plenty of experience in both business and getting into the nitty gritty details of technical problems. In this episode Dan chats with Cole Cornford about cryptology, the challenges and rewards of founding a company, best practices for securing funding for a startup, and plenty more.Timestamps - 2:00 - Dan's career background - 8:00 - Dan's lessons from working in government - 9:30 - When Dan became obsessed with cryptography - 12:40 - Reflecting on Dan's 1st failed business - 17:10 - The founding of CipherStash - 23:40 - Managing data a major challenge in large orgs - 28:00 - Different types of data breaches - 32:00 - Potential and limitations of AI in cybersecurity - 37:00 - Experience raising money for a startup - 44:10 - Dan's 3 tiers of investors - 46:00 - Rapid fire questionsThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy