Dry Run

Kris & Lizzie discuss the tyranny of Mother's Day on Instagram before chatting with Brianda Gonzalez, the founder of The New Bar, a West Coast non-alc bottle shop that's raising the standard when it comes to NA cocktails. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

We discuss the woes of Maycember and joys of mahjong and rollerblading before chatting with friend-of-the-show, Caroline, about her sober journey (12 years woot woot!), the joys of Diet Coke, and sober Phish shows. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

A Few Items from the Pod ⤵️Coffee Talk: You’re Doing it WrongChappell Roan spilled some—ahem—tea to Las Culturistas, revealing that she’s joined the growing list of caffeine-free folks (including former guest, Kelley Garrard). We’re both unconvinced we have to ever give up the zoom zoom juice, but we couldn’t be further apart on how we take it in the morning. ☯️One of us likes her joe the sophisticated way, while the other’s morning routine leans more Mickey D’s milkshake. The Kristina* 1 single serve stick of Mounthagen free dried coffee.* 1 pack of Equal.* 2 heaping teaspoons of sugar (I like to use a gold spoon to make the ritual fancier).* 1 generous glug of organic half and half.* 1 mug of *hot hot hot* water.The Lizzie * Black coffee. Ideally from beans roasted by My Friend’s Coffee, poured into 8 oz. mugs by Manzama. “KDD”: New Research on A.D.H.D. MedsA New York Times article has been making the rounds in both the media and the A.D.H.D. community—among providers and patients alike. We dove into Kristina’s “KDD” on the pod; here’s what we referenced:* Have We Been Thinking about A.D.H.D. all wrong? (The New York Times)* Millions of American kids have an A.D.H.D. diagnosis. Are they being treated effectively? (Fresh Air/NPR)Shots We ♥️: B12 If you’re feeling low energy, foggy, or generally dragging, a B12 injection might be the gentle nudge your body needs. This essential vitamin supports mood, focus, and metabolism. It's especially helpful for vegetarians and vegans, or those who simply need a reset. Vitamin B12 is water-soluble, which means your body flushes out what it doesn’t need—so overdosing is exceptionally rare. That said, always good to get your levels checked by a doctor first. We love B12 for it’s help with:* Brain Fog* Dizziness* Depression* Fatigue * Irritability 🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️* Mood Swings * Sluggish Metabolism This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Mal Glowenke influenced us to think about categorizing our adult friendships into three groups, with the idea that being a good friend means focusing on and caring for your hot tub friends and your bath friends.Pool friends: Friends that are at big parties, nights out, but not people you’re keeping up with on the daily or weekly.Hot tub friends: Your closest 10-15 friends. People you have intimate dinners with, are at baby showers, and that you communicate with regularly.Bath friends: Your partner and/or 1-2 of your closest best best friends. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Laura Silverman is the one-woman show behind Zero Proof Nation, a catch-all index of the modern NA movement—from bottle shops to beverages—ZPN is the place to find it all.What Laura’s drinking this week:Clockwise from top left: Flyers THC House Cocktails; Athletic Brewing raspberry espresso stout (she also adds in her own collab Cherry Coffee Blast bitters); Happi THC seltzers; Curious Zero’s Lion’s Mane Lager; Daytrip Prebiotic sodas. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Natasha Case is the co-founder and former CEO of Coolhaus Ice Cream until it was acquired in 2021. She is also the co-founder of Future Gin, the first all-queer and women-owned spirit in the US and most recently, the founder and CEO of Lunch Bunch, which provides enrichments and nutritious food for schools. In her spare time (how does she have any?), she is a Commissioner of Cultural Affairs for the City of LA. We talk to her about the patriarchy of alcohol and the effects it has on the disempowerment of women; how she entertains, and how that affects her definition of sobriety; and also of her political ambitions (spoiler: we break some news here on Dry Run). She brings some big millennial energy to the pod and we loved our chat with her, so cin cin and have a great weekend! We’ll be back next week with some Spring Break travel tips on the ‘stack. —Lizzie & Kristina Thanks for reading! Please like and share this podcast and newsletter to help us grow our community! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Kristina and Lizzie talk about their NA restaurant orders and chat with the James Beard nominee, cookbook author, and eponymous restauranteur and baker, Valerie Gordon.Valerie discusses NA drinks on the pod including a round-up of her current favorites on the market. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Kristina and Lizzie talk to sober astrologer Kaitlyn Ramsey of Loving the Dark Parts about the Worm Moon and how sobriety and the cosmos can connect to inform a deeper understanding of self. You can also find Kaitlyn’s work on her substack and podcast: Loving the Dark Parts. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Kristina and Lizzie talk concert histories from a Guns N Roses show at age 6 to a Euro Phish tour in college and interview Sam Outlaw about what it's like to be a sober country musician in the Nashville scene. Check out Sam Outlaw’s new album The Nonessential, coming out March 24th. And a special thank you to My Friend's Coffee for the connect. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com

Lizzie and Kristina listen to downtown doyen and storied Paper Magazine editor Mickey Boardman dish on rehab, sugar, family dynamics, A.A., and how to live fabulously. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dryrunbaby.substack.com